love & logic

My husband and I have been struggling here and there with how to discipline Pea. She’s one month shy of three. She’s intelligent, clever, beautiful, funny, loving and all of those wonderful things we want our children to be. Are you sensing an oncoming “but?” I hate to use that word, it’s as if it negates all of the good. So, I won’t. I will say this: she is three going on forty. No kidding. Her vocabulary is so far advanced that quite often I find myself completely without my own words to respond to her. She is cunning and a keen observer and she can literally run circles around me. I stand there, jaw on the ground, trying to craft a weighty response to whatever has just gone down, and by the time I figure it out, she’s a million miles away. The moment is gone. Poof. Just like that. Until the next time.

I want for my girls what I’m sure you all want for your kids. To teach them self-respect and self-love. Patience and kindness. To value education, in all of it’s forms. To have an adventurous spirit. To persevere through the hard times and to cherish the good times. To love and to be loved. To have a healthy question of authority but also to be respectful. Dignified. To have good physical health as well as good mental health. To know right from wrong. To speak up when they witness an injustice. To be open-minded and open-hearted. To be accepting of others, whomever they may be. Wherever they may be from. No matter what religion, race or sexual orientation. I want them to be happy. I want them to find their place in the world, their calling. Their passion.

But sometimes? Especially with Pea, right now? I just want her to listen. I want to be able to successfully communicate with her when something isn’t working. I want her to mind me. Follow the rules. And at her age? She’s testing everyone.

So… as I am prone to do, I googled a question about parenting. And as is generally the case, the first response came from the Berkeley Parents Network. Has this happened to anyone else? You type in some innocuous words in the search box on Google, and… there they are? Always? The Berkeley Parents Network? Well, it happens to me all of the time. It’s like they are the Great and All-Knowing Wizard of Oz. And although I am poking fun at them here, honestly? More often then not I’ve found the answer to what I am looking for with them. And the group is just what you’d think it is, they are a group of volunteer parents in and around the Berkeley, California area who write up little responses to all things parenting-related. And sometimes, not parenting-related. And one time? There was a recommendation for a parenting book called “Love and Logic.” And although I thought I was finished with parenting books when Pea turned one, that I could handle it from that point on by myself, I was wrong. She has since entered a phase in her life where the time-out doesn’t seem to be working and honestly, I am tired and so have begun to take the “easy” way out. That’s right. I am a mother who, on occasion, will bribe her child. But that just doesn’t seem like it’s going to be beneficial for either of us, in the long run. I need to get a handle on this. Now. After doing a little digging around, I decided to order the book. Why not? What did I have to lose, right? As much as I adore “Supernanny,” the time-outs were just not working in our home. We did everything we were supposed to do. Firm consistency, no engaging. And… nothing.

The book arrived. I briefly glanced at it and then set it aside amongst the other books in the towering pile on my nightstand. And then one night, I happened upon a class being taught at the local high school on… you guessed it… Love & Logic. It’s four weeks long, once a week in the evening for an hour and fifteen minutes. So I signed my husband and myself up. Thankfully, we are equal partners (and parents) in this house, and so when something isn’t working for one of us, we are able to come together and figure out our plan of attack as a couple. So I knew it would be a non-issue, that my incredible husband would happily join me. So off we went. All the while, with a quietly spoken plea to the universe that this class not be a dud.

It wasn’t. I think we’re onto something here.

I pulled the book back out, threw it on my husband’s pillow so that he could peruse it. And tonight, I plan on diving in myself. And I’m not coming up for air until I finish it. Because since last night, I’ve met a whole slew of couples with children who, like us, are not afraid to admit that they don’t know what they’re doing with their little kids. Nice couples. They look like us. They speak like us. They love their kids like we do. And they are in this class with us, wanting so much to learn what we are aching to learn: how do we parent our children successfully so that our kids feel that they have a semblance of control over their own lives? So that they feel they are being heard and they feel valued and respected? And how do we as parents also feel the same? In control? Heard? Valued? Respected? I don’t have the answers. Yet. And I don’t expect perfection. Ever. But I am hopeful that I’m going to learn how to navigate through Pea’s life with her. And Coco, too, as she grows out of babyhood and into her own little person. I want to be their teacher. Their guide. Their safe place to land. Their soft shoulder to cry on. Their cheerleader. Their sounding board. Their confidante. Their mother.

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  1. Erika said:

    Hey Melissa – I HIGHLY recommend Love & Logic for the TODDLER years! It will apply to you MORE than the “bible” you have currently. Which is truly the bible, and you will appreciate it more the older they get, but I STILL use techniques in the TODDLER years for my 7 & 5 year olds. I even gave it to our kindergarten teacher, because she knew she didnt have control of the classroom & I thought, “gosh if she could just say ‘UH OH this is SOOOOO sad….’ ‘ she would grab their attention immediately & everyone would stop. ALl i have to say at our house is “UH OH” & everyone stops to look!! It works!! Check it out!

    and for the hubbies – i highly recommend the book on CD – put it on their ipod! I have been known to put on my headset, & organize the entire playroom listening to a Love & Logic CD!

    Check out the montly newsletter too – $18 a year i think & its full of good stuff! :) Take care :)

    PS – your pup’s pictures brought tears to my eyes, she’s absolutely beautiful! ENJOY!!! :)

  2. Kathy said:

    When my daughter turned three, the action really began. The timeouts we were using weren’t working well and so we took a Love and Logic parenting class. The techniques worked great.

    Since that time I’ve taught a number of parenting classes to keep up my skills and read numerous books. I tried to capture the best parenting techniques I found in this seven lesson online course:

    http://www.PricelessParenting.com/

    You can try out lesson 1 for free to see if you like it. My children are now 15 and 12. All the energy we put into parenting when they were young has definitely paid off. You’re on the right track!

  3. Everyday Yogini said:

    THANK GOD you posted this. Sometimes I feel like I have absolutely NO IDEA what the heck to do with Clara. I, too, thought I was done with parenting books, but I will definitely order this one! Thank you for the recommendation, Melissa! Time outs are a running joke in our house now. Completely useless.

    I have used the term “listening ears” with Clara, asking her to put her listening ears on. She has started telling me when she can’t put them on when she knows we are getting into to deep water… how do you respond to a kid who tells you she is beyond listening??? (except laugh in disbelief that a 3 year old can outsmart you??)

    I look forward to reading the book!!

  4. Shannon (Cole Mine) said:

    We are in the same place with our 3 year old…The book is on my dresser and I’ve read just the beginning…Time outs aren’t working for us either- Hopefully we’ll find some insight in this way of parenting.

  5. Starr said:

    I think you will REALLY be into the Love and Logic program. I have a girlfriend who has children that are so well behaved and polite that I was prompted to ask “How DO YOU DO IT?”, and she told me about the program. Now if I can just be consistent about it….Parenting is not for sissies!

  6. monkeysparkets said:

    Oh Lordy, are we in the same situation. My oldest is going to be three on Thursday and it seems like a few weeks ago, out of the blue, time outs stopped working. It’s like she realized that that was my “big gun”. I had nothing left! This week we started using a marble jar, and we have seen a big improvement. Every good behavior earns a marble in her jar, and bad behavior loses a marble. We have a few special toys we use as rewards for earning “x” amount of marbles. I guess it sort of is bribery, but it also helps her realize there are consequences to her actions. Keep us posted on the book, I need all the help I can get!

  7. erin said:

    I’m going to have to check that book out as P is nearing one and I’m sure I will need all the help I can get!

  8. ~M said:

    I love that you referenced Berkeley Parents Network…I used BPN all the time with my first pregnancy (as I was living in closer proximity to Berkeley at the time), but I still find them a great resource.
    Time outs aren’t really working for us right now, either. Especially because Xander has taken to saying, “I was going to have time out!” as a way of stalling and not doing what we’re asking him to do (put on shoes, go up the stairs, etc.)
    I just ordered the Love and Logic book and am going to look into a class in my area. Thanks for the tip, Melissa! Let us know how the class goes.

  9. Jaina said:

    Sounds pretty neat. I wish you the best of luck. I’ll have to keep this in mind later on. :)

  10. Robyn said:

    I love that you don’t try to act like you know it all. I eat up parenting books (haven’t tried a class yet) because I know there are different ways of doing things than how I’m doing them. You have to find what works for Pea and your family — and you will. Pea knows you love here and are there for her, which HAS to be the baseline for any good parenting!

  11. Allison said:

    I am SO happy you found this book. Before having my little Max, I taught school for five years. Sixth and fifth graders. I started teaching at 21, right out of college. I thought I knew everything. Boy was I wrong. I am a people pleaser, and I consider myself to be a pretty friendly person. I am not into yelling. Not into “punishing”. Eleven and twelve year olds don’t do well with a people-pleasing teacher. It’s a wonderful age, but boy do they know how to walk all over a teacher if given an inch. I was drowning. I needed to change something major. Why didn’t they teach this in college?! After my first few months of teaching I decided that I needed to make some major changes so I enrolled in a Love and Logic course for teachers. It was a class that changed my life! I devoured the book. I implemented the philosophies into my teaching. I didn’t have to punish the kids. I taught them correct behaviors and they chose logical consequences when they made mistakes. They respected me. They knew when they had done something wrong so I let them own up to the behavior and choose a consequence to fit. They knew that I cared about them and that I respected them enough to help them right their wrongs. The rest of my teaching career was wonderful. There was such a feeling of unity in my classroom. The kids felt safe. They knew I would never demeen them or make them feel stupid. They did know that there would be consequences for poor choices. They learned from them and they usually didn’t repeat them. I will definitely use this when my son gets a little older. I am seriously so happy that you came across this book/course! Keep us updated and good luck!

  12. Tam said:

    :smile: I love that you share all this good stuff. My youngest just turned 3 and I am reminded daily that he is his own person. He needs me on one hand but on the other he needs feel free. A mom of 8 gave me some great insight. “Our children are just little people. Sometimes people can be difficult. We just need to remain patient.” She is so wise and so busy but one of the most patient people I have every had the pleasure of meeting. Your babies are so lucky to have parents who care about their character and their future. No worries for those guys> Have a great day!

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